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Comments on: Selecting an Effective Bot Character http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/02/05/selecting-an-effective-bot-character/ a blog and podcast dedicated to discussing text arts forms Wed, 13 Dec 2017 18:56:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 en Writer Response Theory 2004-2005 wrt@writerresponsetheory.org (Writer Response Theory) wrt@writerresponsetheory.org Talk Radio Comment-cast: Selecting an Effective Bot Character Comment-cast: Selecting an Effective Bot Character Writer Response Theory Writer Response Theory wrt@writerresponsetheory.org http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/iTWRT.JPG WRT: Writer Response Theory http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress 144 144 by: Mark Marino http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/02/05/selecting-an-effective-bot-character/#comment-35 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/02/05/selecting-an-effective-bot-character/#comment-35 Here's one such reference: <br /> <br /> Khoo, A., Zubek, R. 2002. <a href="http://www.cs.northwestern.edu/~rob/publications/applying-inexpensive-ai.ieee02.pdf">"Applying Inexpensive AI Techniques to Computer Games." </a> IEEE Intelligent Systems. 17(4): 48-53. <br /> <br /> <br /> Also, after reading a <a href="http://www.a-i.com/show_print.asp?id=114&#38;level=4&#38;root=115&#38;print_page=item_p&#38;item_num=746&#38;item_name=Session+96116+Feb%2E+08%2C++%2E%2E%2E">transcript</a> between ALICE and Alan, I'm starting to be more convinced of the importance of a sense of humor, or at least a display of attitude. Of course, getting back to motivation, it helps that Alan has something he wants to prove. Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /home/writerresponse/writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/wp-includes/functions-formatting.php on line 76

Here’s one such reference:

Khoo, A., Zubek, R. 2002. “Applying Inexpensive AI Techniques to Computer Games.” IEEE Intelligent Systems. 17(4): 48-53.

Also, after reading a transcript between ALICE and Alan, I’m starting to be more convinced of the importance of a sense of humor, or at least a display of attitude. Of course, getting back to motivation, it helps that Alan has something he wants to prove.

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Mark Marino Here's one such reference: Khoo, A., Zubek, R. 2002. "Applying Inexpensive AI Techniques to Computer Games." IEEE Intelligent Systems. ... Here's one such reference: Khoo, A., Zubek, R. 2002. "Applying Inexpensive AI Techniques to Computer Games." IEEE Intelligent Systems. ...
by: Christy Dena http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/02/05/selecting-an-effective-bot-character/#comment-34 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/02/05/selecting-an-effective-bot-character/#comment-34 Oh I agree with you that it is the narrative framing that is part of the immersive experience: <em>who are they</em> and <em>why are they</em> and <em>why we're there</em>. We seem to need to have a reason for contact in real life and the motivation follows on to chatting with bots. But it is extreme motivation. To spend time chatting with an artificial character, with ergodic literature, requires a great deal of effort (perhaps only in relative terms because we're used to entertainment being delivered and pre-configured). A good reason to talk powers our keyboard tapping for a few minutes, right? But just like a good story the characters and the writing need to come into play to keep the reader there. Characters are perhaps sustaining devices rather than hooks?<br /> <br /> Also, the need to make us want to talk to them obviously starts before the conversation. Bots are pitched as characters at present -- you go and talk with a personality (just about all bots have names and this is probably due to the community being <a href="http://www.loebner.net/Prizef/loebner-prize.html">Loebner Prize</a> oriented rather than creatively). Many bots aren't really pitched as a personality in a dramatic situation (like character comedy, a fish out of water type tensions). Good characters imply a story, like <a href="http://triumphpc.com/saucyjacky/">Saucy Jacky</a> as you mentioned, and <a href="http://johnlennonproject.com/">John Lennon</a> (both from the same company: <a href="http://triumphpc.com/about/">Persona Bots</a>). There are some bots that are framed around an event though, rather than a personality. See Timothy Marsh's <a href="http://www.pandorabots.com/pandora/talk?botid=e88273379e34c66f">Elevator Bot</a> and another that I don't have permission to cite as yet but which is an audition scene. This later addresses nicely your second point: <br /> <blockquote>How is the user being assimilated into the encounter through the address of the chatbot?</blockquote><br /> It has the user represented on the screen as a co-bot-actor. The users role is implied, therefore, visually and in the content with direct address from the bot informing the user what they are supposed to do. Elevator bot outlines the situation and you know pretty quickly what you're trying to do. They're both goal-oriented. These are, of course, the same issues that game designers face with integrating and representing the player. Some papers on first and third person integration in games would be good here... Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /home/writerresponse/writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/wp-includes/functions-formatting.php on line 76

Oh I agree with you that it is the narrative framing that is part of the immersive experience: who are they and why are they and why we’re there. We seem to need to have a reason for contact in real life and the motivation follows on to chatting with bots. But it is extreme motivation. To spend time chatting with an artificial character, with ergodic literature, requires a great deal of effort (perhaps only in relative terms because we’re used to entertainment being delivered and pre-configured). A good reason to talk powers our keyboard tapping for a few minutes, right? But just like a good story the characters and the writing need to come into play to keep the reader there. Characters are perhaps sustaining devices rather than hooks?

Also, the need to make us want to talk to them obviously starts before the conversation. Bots are pitched as characters at present — you go and talk with a personality (just about all bots have names and this is probably due to the community being Loebner Prize oriented rather than creatively). Many bots aren’t really pitched as a personality in a dramatic situation (like character comedy, a fish out of water type tensions). Good characters imply a story, like Saucy Jacky as you mentioned, and John Lennon (both from the same company: Persona Bots). There are some bots that are framed around an event though, rather than a personality. See Timothy Marsh’s Elevator Bot and another that I don’t have permission to cite as yet but which is an audition scene. This later addresses nicely your second point:

How is the user being assimilated into the encounter through the address of the chatbot?

It has the user represented on the screen as a co-bot-actor. The users role is implied, therefore, visually and in the content with direct address from the bot informing the user what they are supposed to do. Elevator bot outlines the situation and you know pretty quickly what you’re trying to do. They’re both goal-oriented. These are, of course, the same issues that game designers face with integrating and representing the player. Some papers on first and third person integration in games would be good here…

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Christy Dena Oh I agree with you that it is the narrative framing that is part of the immersive experience: who are ... Oh I agree with you that it is the narrative framing that is part of the immersive experience: who are ...
by: Mark Marino http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/02/05/selecting-an-effective-bot-character/#comment-33 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/02/05/selecting-an-effective-bot-character/#comment-33 I don't mean to sidestep here, but that is one of my favorite chatbot response tactics.<br /> <br /> To combine some of these comments you quote, it seems to me that more important than the character of the bot is the context suggested by the character. <br /> <br /> As in: <br /> <blockquote>the author invented a method of making the rules for a conversation serve as a dramatic structure for an interactive scene. </blockquote><br /> <br /> and here:<br /> <br /> <blockquote>they represent, not "chat machines," but a novel Storytelling medium</blockquote>.<br /> When I think of <a href="http://triumphpc.com/saucyjacky/">Saucy Jacky</a> or <a href="http://www.lazytd.com/lti/julia/">Julia</a>, I think about the cyberspaces in which one encounters them, the context of the conversation. The chatbot, written into its identity, must have, like an actor, motivation, except it must have motivation for the user. Why are we chatting with it? How is the user being assimilated into the encounter through the address of the chatbot? <br /> <br /> In short to answer: <br /> <blockquote>What do they NEED to have as traits?</blockquote><br /> They need to make us want to talk to them. Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /home/writerresponse/writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/wp-includes/functions-formatting.php on line 76

I don’t mean to sidestep here, but that is one of my favorite chatbot response tactics.

To combine some of these comments you quote, it seems to me that more important than the character of the bot is the context suggested by the character.

As in:

the author invented a method of making the rules for a conversation serve as a dramatic structure for an interactive scene.

and here:

they represent, not “chat machines,” but a novel Storytelling medium

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When I think of Saucy Jacky or Julia, I think about the cyberspaces in which one encounters them, the context of the conversation. The chatbot, written into its identity, must have, like an actor, motivation, except it must have motivation for the user. Why are we chatting with it? How is the user being assimilated into the encounter through the address of the chatbot?

In short to answer:

What do they NEED to have as traits?

They need to make us want to talk to them.

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Mark Marino I don't mean to sidestep here, but that is one of my favorite chatbot response tactics. To combine some of these ... I don't mean to sidestep here, but that is one of my favorite chatbot response tactics. To combine some of these ...