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Comments on: SubEthaEdit-orializing http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/07/28/subethaedit/ a blog and podcast dedicated to discussing text arts forms Sun, 19 Nov 2017 01:13:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 en Writer Response Theory 2004-2005 wrt@writerresponsetheory.org (Writer Response Theory) wrt@writerresponsetheory.org Talk Radio Comment-cast: SubEthaEdit-orializing Comment-cast: SubEthaEdit-orializing Writer Response Theory Writer Response Theory wrt@writerresponsetheory.org http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/iTWRT.JPG WRT: Writer Response Theory http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress 144 144 by: iBunk takes on iWorld at WRT: Writer Response Theory http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/07/28/subethaedit/#comment-13266 Sat, 26 Aug 2006 08:10:55 +0000 http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/07/28/subethaedit/#comment-13266 [...] Haberdashery Fiction piece by Millenium written using SubEthaEdit.  See WRt post here. [...] Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /home/writerresponse/writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/wp-includes/functions-formatting.php on line 76

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iBunk takes on iWorld at WRT: Writer Response Theory [...] Haberdashery Fiction piece by Millenium written using SubEthaEdit.  See WRt post here. [...] [...] Haberdashery Fiction piece by Millenium written using SubEthaEdit.  See WRt post here. [...]
by: Freccia http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/07/28/subethaedit/#comment-753 Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:59:19 +0000 http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/07/28/subethaedit/#comment-753 SubEthaEdit is a very interesting, and radical, approach to collaborative writing. It is interesting that you mention versioning as well; modern software that assists in versioning of text files hosted on the Internet, provide another platform for somewhat similar behavior (collaborative writing), to some extent recent versioning systems such as subversion even support collaborating on the same document at the same time (although you won't get instantaneous updates on your screen!) I am eager to see if we can adapt to the possibilities that these new technologies offer, or if people won't be able to let others get "their grubby hands" on their notes. Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /home/writerresponse/writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/wp-includes/functions-formatting.php on line 76

SubEthaEdit is a very interesting, and radical, approach to collaborative writing. It is interesting that you mention versioning as well; modern software that assists in versioning of text files hosted on the Internet, provide another platform for somewhat similar behavior (collaborative writing), to some extent recent versioning systems such as subversion even support collaborating on the same document at the same time (although you won’t get instantaneous updates on your screen!)

I am eager to see if we can adapt to the possibilities that these new technologies offer, or if people won’t be able to let others get “their grubby hands” on their notes.

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Freccia SubEthaEdit is a very interesting, and radical, approach to collaborative writing. It is interesting that you mention versioning as well; ... SubEthaEdit is a very interesting, and radical, approach to collaborative writing. It is interesting that you mention versioning as well; ...
by: Jeremy Douglass http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/07/28/subethaedit/#comment-319 Wed, 03 Aug 2005 16:18:37 +0000 http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/07/28/subethaedit/#comment-319 re: recording animations: There are more expensive solutions, certainly - <a href="http://www.macromedia.com/go/gnavtray_breeze_home" rel="nofollow">Macromedia Breeze</a> is the one I'd love to get my hands on, not just for screencapturing but for recording GUI elements into interactive Flash. I'm not sure if any artist has experimented with Breeze yet, but the possibilities seem endless - the more so given that it was designed for corporate training and product tutorials. <a href="http://www.davidbyrne.com/art/eeei/index.php" rel="nofollow">David Byrne's PowerPoint art</a>, anyone? Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /home/writerresponse/writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/wp-includes/functions-formatting.php on line 76

re: recording animations: There are more expensive solutions, certainly - Macromedia Breeze is the one I’d love to get my hands on, not just for screencapturing but for recording GUI elements into interactive Flash. I’m not sure if any artist has experimented with Breeze yet, but the possibilities seem endless - the more so given that it was designed for corporate training and product tutorials. David Byrne’s PowerPoint art, anyone?

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Jeremy Douglass re: recording animations: There are more expensive solutions, certainly - Macromedia Breeze is the one I'd love to get my ... re: recording animations: There are more expensive solutions, certainly - Macromedia Breeze is the one I'd love to get my ...
by: Jeremy Douglass http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/07/28/subethaedit/#comment-318 Wed, 03 Aug 2005 16:13:11 +0000 http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/07/28/subethaedit/#comment-318 re: versioning: I suppose keystrokes are being typed on various computers in one order - they are being sent over the internet in second order - and they arrive at the computer hosting the document in a third order. These three orders are in general the same, but network latency might change them. You are right - this is complex simultaneity. On the other hand, internal to SubEthaEdit's software process on the hosting computer, there aren't really 'simultaneous' changes - just individual single letter or single word changes which arrive in some order, and are committed against the document in the order they arrive. When we slow the writing process down (inverse Stanley Fish) we can see the micro-versions tick by. However 'micro-version' might be a perverse description - a one-letter change is enough of a difference in degree from a 'version' that it might be a difference in kind. Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /home/writerresponse/writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/wp-includes/functions-formatting.php on line 76

re: versioning:

I suppose keystrokes are being typed on various computers in one order - they are being sent over the internet in second order - and they arrive at the computer hosting the document in a third order. These three orders are in general the same, but network latency might change them. You are right - this is complex simultaneity.

On the other hand, internal to SubEthaEdit’s software process on the hosting computer, there aren’t really ’simultaneous’ changes - just individual single letter or single word changes which arrive in some order, and are committed against the document in the order they arrive. When we slow the writing process down (inverse Stanley Fish) we can see the micro-versions tick by.

However ‘micro-version’ might be a perverse description - a one-letter change is enough of a difference in degree from a ‘version’ that it might be a difference in kind.

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Jeremy Douglass re: versioning: I suppose keystrokes are being typed on various computers in one order - they are being sent over the ... re: versioning: I suppose keystrokes are being typed on various computers in one order - they are being sent over the ...
by: Mark Marino http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/07/28/subethaedit/#comment-317 Wed, 03 Aug 2005 06:03:30 +0000 http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/07/28/subethaedit/#comment-317 The mysteries seem to multiply With Regard To this piece, such as, what's going on with the monkey mask? Who wears the sunglasses? And why is there not a writer blue? Millenium seems cagey, Nicholas or John, you pick. re: versioning. That's a good point about histories. I was thinking that if "versioning" is to keep track of the changes made to the document by various people and to preserve "drafts" or a "master copy," then having everyone make changes simultaneously (even if color-coded) seems to be antithetical to the process. Re: the animations, they are uncredited. But I must say, that your idea of a recording of the process is excellent and is possible with <a href="http://www.download5000.com/page2142.aspx" rel="nofollow">certain software.</a> Are there cheaper solutions? Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /home/writerresponse/writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/wp-includes/functions-formatting.php on line 76

The mysteries seem to multiply With Regard To this piece, such as, what’s going on with the monkey mask? Who wears the sunglasses? And why is there not a writer blue?

Millenium seems cagey, Nicholas or John, you pick.

re: versioning. That’s a good point about histories. I was thinking that if “versioning” is to keep track of the changes made to the document by various people and to preserve “drafts” or a “master copy,” then having everyone make changes simultaneously (even if color-coded) seems to be antithetical to the process.

Re: the animations, they are uncredited. But I must say, that your idea of a recording of the process is excellent and is possible with certain software. Are there cheaper solutions?

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Mark Marino The mysteries seem to multiply With Regard To this piece, such as, what's going on with the monkey mask? Who ... The mysteries seem to multiply With Regard To this piece, such as, what's going on with the monkey mask? Who ...

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