Comments on: Spell with Flickr http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/08/03/spell-with-flickr/ a blog and podcast dedicated to discussing text arts forms Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:27:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 en Writer Response Theory 2004-2005 wrt@writerresponsetheory.org (Writer Response Theory) wrt@writerresponsetheory.org Talk Radio Comment-cast: Spell with Flickr Comment-cast: Spell with Flickr Writer Response Theory Writer Response Theory wrt@writerresponsetheory.org http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/iTWRT.JPG WRT: Writer Response Theory http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress 144 144 by: WRT: Writer Response Theory » Blog Archive » Digital typography vs photography (via Flickr) http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/08/03/spell-with-flickr/#comment-897 Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:11:28 +0000 http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/08/03/spell-with-flickr/#comment-897 [...] Even with digital cameras uploading files directly to a digital service, this gap between the image-of-past-light and the image-out-of-the-machine seems just as large and just as visceral. One small crossover has been the One Letter project, assembling photographic characters so that the machines can semaphor with past light (as discussed previously). What would be a gesture in the opposite direction? [...] […] Even with digital cameras uploading files directly to a digital service, this gap between the image-of-past-light and the image-out-of-the-machine seems just as large and just as visceral. One small crossover has been the One Letter project, assembling photographic characters so that the machines can semaphor with past light (as discussed previously). What would be a gesture in the opposite direction? […]

]]> WRT: Writer Response Theory » Blog Archive » Digital typography vs photography (via Flickr) [...] Even with digital cameras uploading files directly to a digital service, this gap between the image-of-past-light and the image-out-of-the-machine ... [...] Even with digital cameras uploading files directly to a digital service, this gap between the image-of-past-light and the image-out-of-the-machine ... by: Jeremy Douglass http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/08/03/spell-with-flickr/#comment-457 Wed, 21 Sep 2005 00:57:24 +0000 http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/08/03/spell-with-flickr/#comment-457 I like the idea of using Flickr annotation to tell stories - while embedding text in mouseovers has been used in a lot of different kinds of net art and new media, I wonder if "hotspots" is the right word - I always assumed those were launch-points for some sort of entity (new window, audio or video clip, etc) while the hovering text box that is revealed by pointing is more tenuous and ephemeral, appearing after a short delay and then disappearing as soon as the mouse leaves scope. Is there a formal term? In Ted Nelson-speak, it seems like that would be "hovertext" or "pointtext"... Do you have a reference link to the GTxA thread you mentioned? I like the idea of using Flickr annotation to tell stories - while embedding text in mouseovers has been used in a lot of different kinds of net art and new media, I wonder if “hotspots” is the right word - I always assumed those were launch-points for some sort of entity (new window, audio or video clip, etc) while the hovering text box that is revealed by pointing is more tenuous and ephemeral, appearing after a short delay and then disappearing as soon as the mouse leaves scope. Is there a formal term? In Ted Nelson-speak, it seems like that would be “hovertext” or “pointtext”…

Do you have a reference link to the GTxA thread you mentioned?

]]> Jeremy Douglass I like the idea of using Flickr annotation to tell stories - while embedding text in mouseovers has been used ... I like the idea of using Flickr annotation to tell stories - while embedding text in mouseovers has been used ... by: Mark Marino http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/08/03/spell-with-flickr/#comment-442 Sat, 17 Sep 2005 05:47:40 +0000 http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/08/03/spell-with-flickr/#comment-442 Flickr Fiction: Another use of Flickr could be electronic storytelling, along the lines of <a href="http://grandtextauto.gatech.edu/2005/04/06/memory-mapping/#comments" rel="nofollow"> the Flickr Google-Map annotation</a>. What gets lost in the discussion of Scott's post is that these automated systems of annotation could be used as more broadly for storytelling? Flickr Fiction could go far beyond maps. Why not create fictions by annotating any picture? You've got images, with text, participation (Writer-Response), and system for distribution and sharing. Any picture could be annotated. One might ask who is writing the text? What is the relationship between the text or image? How is the image sliced and diced? These are the creative questions. Here's a rough draft of a "Lady or the Tiger" benchmark using Flickr annotation. <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/23637610@N00/43950751/" rel="nofollow">Lady or the Tiger</a> I don't mean to confuse this with <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewlos/tags/flicktion/">Flicktion</a>, which is writing fictions that accompany photos in Flickr. This example from Andrewlos shows how that works. Or perhaps i'm suggesting annotated Flicktion. Of course, adding messages on hotspots, as others on GTxA point out, is not new to Flickr. But this is an easy-to-use collaborative writing medium using images. Conceivably, collaboration could occur in the comments as well, but the notes on the image seem to change the image in a way that the comments below the picture do not. They seem more like blogging. Flickr Fiction:

Another use of Flickr could be electronic storytelling, along the lines of the Flickr Google-Map annotation. What gets lost in the discussion of Scott’s post is that these automated systems of annotation could be used as more broadly for storytelling?

Flickr Fiction could go far beyond maps.

Why not create fictions by annotating any picture? You’ve got images, with text, participation (Writer-Response), and system for distribution and sharing. Any picture could be annotated. One might ask who is writing the text? What is the relationship between the text or image? How is the image sliced and diced? These are the creative questions.

Here’s a rough draft of a “Lady or the Tiger” benchmark using Flickr annotation.
Lady or the Tiger

I don’t mean to confuse this with Flicktion, which is writing fictions that accompany photos in Flickr. This example from Andrewlos shows how that works. Or perhaps i’m suggesting annotated Flicktion.

Of course, adding messages on hotspots, as others on GTxA point out, is not new to Flickr. But this is an easy-to-use collaborative writing medium using images. Conceivably, collaboration could occur in the comments as well, but the notes on the image seem to change the image in a way that the comments below the picture do not. They seem more like blogging.

]]> Mark Marino Flickr Fiction: Another use of Flickr could be electronic storytelling, along the lines of the Flickr Google-Map annotation. What ... Flickr Fiction: Another use of Flickr could be electronic storytelling, along the lines of the Flickr Google-Map annotation. What ...