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Comments on: Transclusion and Google Print http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/11/14/transclusion-and-google-print/ a blog and podcast dedicated to discussing text arts forms Sat, 18 Nov 2017 15:58:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 en Writer Response Theory 2004-2005 wrt@writerresponsetheory.org (Writer Response Theory) wrt@writerresponsetheory.org Talk Radio Comment-cast: Transclusion and Google Print Comment-cast: Transclusion and Google Print Writer Response Theory Writer Response Theory wrt@writerresponsetheory.org http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/iTWRT.JPG WRT: Writer Response Theory http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress 144 144 by: Christy Dena http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/11/14/transclusion-and-google-print/#comment-15408 Wed, 04 Oct 2006 05:29:12 +0000 http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/11/14/transclusion-and-google-print/#comment-15408 I like the invocation of Nelson's 'transclusion' as a way to thwart the idea of 'copying'. In my cross-media research I try and explain the difference between transmedia and repurposing or versioning through the notion a single source with multiple windows. So, this notion has resonnance for me. I like it. Thanks Jeremy! Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /home/writerresponse/writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/wp-includes/functions-formatting.php on line 76

I like the invocation of Nelson’s ‘transclusion’ as a way to thwart the idea of ‘copying’. In my cross-media research I try and explain the difference between transmedia and repurposing or versioning through the notion a single source with multiple windows. So, this notion has resonnance for me. I like it. Thanks Jeremy!

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Christy Dena I like the invocation of Nelson's 'transclusion' as a way to thwart the idea of 'copying'. In my cross-media research ... I like the invocation of Nelson's 'transclusion' as a way to thwart the idea of 'copying'. In my cross-media research ...
by: Jeremy Douglass http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/11/14/transclusion-and-google-print/#comment-676 Thu, 17 Nov 2005 07:01:04 +0000 http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/11/14/transclusion-and-google-print/#comment-676 Also connected to this idea of the unitary (rather than multiple) database text is a discussion of <a href="http://www.futureofthebook.org/blog/archives/2005/11/the_book_in_the.html" rel="nofollow">metadata and the networked book</a> over at if:book. Interesting, this penumbra of metadata, which seems to coalesce around some singular thing.... <blockquote>The book in the network is a barnacled spirit, carrying with it the sum of its various accretions. Each book is also its own library by virtue not only of what it links to itself, but of what its readers are linking to, of what its readers are reading. Each book is also a milk crate of earlier drafts. It carries its versions with it. A lot of weight for something physically weightless.</blockquote> Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /home/writerresponse/writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/wp-includes/functions-formatting.php on line 76

Also connected to this idea of the unitary (rather than multiple) database text is a discussion of metadata and the networked book over at if:book. Interesting, this penumbra of metadata, which seems to coalesce around some singular thing….

The book in the network is a barnacled spirit, carrying with it the sum of its various accretions. Each book is also its own library by virtue not only of what it links to itself, but of what its readers are linking to, of what its readers are reading. Each book is also a milk crate of earlier drafts. It carries its versions with it. A lot of weight for something physically weightless.

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Jeremy Douglass Also connected to this idea of the unitary (rather than multiple) database text is a discussion of metadata and the ... Also connected to this idea of the unitary (rather than multiple) database text is a discussion of metadata and the ...
by: steven streight aka vaspers the grate http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/11/14/transclusion-and-google-print/#comment-673 Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:47:44 +0000 http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/11/14/transclusion-and-google-print/#comment-673 Thus, electro-telepathy is progressively expanding its territory and external effects. For one mind to query any other mind in the past, present, or presumably the digitized future, the web must be free, spontaneous, floating luxuriously above the petty strife of human hubris, corporate greed, lawyerly debate on intellectual "property" (what a whopping misnomer par excellance). Mix one part oxymoron with two parts hydromoron, shake vigorously, voila: the quick crucifixation of the poor thought morsel. A peering into the pyramid reveals that the theatre of colliding ideas will play itself out in the screens of computers filling both earth and outer space. I mean, to duplicate a slice, a thin slice, of another text, and put in either within another text, or alongside it, ala Derrida and Dada poetics, this is just the circus tent, and not the cotton candy, right? We will dominate or submit. I choose to tease language and force odd concepts to co-exist in formerly ordinary mind-machines. Cataclysmic Whisper Transmission Zone: the Blogosphere 4.0 Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /home/writerresponse/writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/wp-includes/functions-formatting.php on line 76

Thus, electro-telepathy is progressively expanding its territory and external effects.

For one mind to query any other mind in the past, present, or presumably the digitized future, the web must be free, spontaneous, floating luxuriously above the petty strife of human hubris, corporate greed, lawyerly debate on intellectual “property” (what a whopping misnomer par excellance). Mix one part oxymoron with two parts hydromoron, shake vigorously, voila: the quick crucifixation of the poor thought morsel.

A peering into the pyramid reveals that the theatre of colliding ideas will play itself out in the screens of computers filling both earth and outer space.

I mean, to duplicate a slice, a thin slice, of another text, and put in either within another text, or alongside it, ala Derrida and Dada poetics, this is just the circus tent, and not the cotton candy, right?

We will dominate or submit. I choose to tease language and force odd concepts to co-exist in formerly ordinary mind-machines.

Cataclysmic Whisper Transmission Zone: the Blogosphere 4.0

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steven streight aka vaspers the grate Thus, electro-telepathy is progressively expanding its territory and external effects. For one mind to query any other mind in the past, ... Thus, electro-telepathy is progressively expanding its territory and external effects. For one mind to query any other mind in the past, ...
by: Jeremy Douglass http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/11/14/transclusion-and-google-print/#comment-670 Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:48:55 +0000 http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/11/14/transclusion-and-google-print/#comment-670 Sure enough, <a href="http://print.google.com/print?ie=UTF-8&#38;q=conversational+agent" rel="nofollow">conversational agent</a> gives much more satisfying results. Could you expand on why you prefer the term chatbot - is it identifying with particular technologies and communities of authors, or is it coming out of some particular history...? Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /home/writerresponse/writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/wp-includes/functions-formatting.php on line 76

Sure enough, conversational agent gives much more satisfying results.

Could you expand on why you prefer the term chatbot - is it identifying with particular technologies and communities of authors, or is it coming out of some particular history…?

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Jeremy Douglass Sure enough, conversational agent gives much more satisfying results. Could you expand on why you prefer the term chatbot - is ... Sure enough, conversational agent gives much more satisfying results. Could you expand on why you prefer the term chatbot - is ...
by: Jeremy Douglass http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/11/14/transclusion-and-google-print/#comment-669 Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:46:05 +0000 http://writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/2005/11/14/transclusion-and-google-print/#comment-669 Another gigantic transclusion machine (at a more atomic level) is <a href="http://base.google.com/base/default" rel="nofollow">Google Base</a>, just officially out. In fact, the atomic unit of Google Base, the "item," may not only appear in search results, but "may also be included in the main Google search index and other Google products like Froogle and Google Local." Google Base uses an extremely flexible concept of an "item" - broken down by a flexible typology that is user editable, with a huge number of possible field types. To this extent, it doesn't make sense to discuss it in terms of classic database table or XML design, which focuses on rigid similarity of required values between all members. Methods of customizeable and extensible fields (WRT's current blog software, WordPress, does a fair bit of this itself) push at the edge of the 'table' paradigm, allowing for easy collection of significantly heterogeneous content. Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /home/writerresponse/writerresponsetheory.org/wordpress/wp-includes/functions-formatting.php on line 76

Another gigantic transclusion machine (at a more atomic level) is Google Base, just officially out. In fact, the atomic unit of Google Base, the “item,” may not only appear in search results, but “may also be included in the main Google search index and other Google products like Froogle and Google Local.”

Google Base uses an extremely flexible concept of an “item” - broken down by a flexible typology that is user editable, with a huge number of possible field types. To this extent, it doesn’t make sense to discuss it in terms of classic database table or XML design, which focuses on rigid similarity of required values between all members. Methods of customizeable and extensible fields (WRT’s current blog software, WordPress, does a fair bit of this itself) push at the edge of the ‘table’ paradigm, allowing for easy collection of significantly heterogeneous content.

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Jeremy Douglass Another gigantic transclusion machine (at a more atomic level) is Google Base, just officially out. In fact, the atomic unit ... Another gigantic transclusion machine (at a more atomic level) is Google Base, just officially out. In fact, the atomic unit ...